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Isabella realizing that Oswald is also in love with Ed. 

I wonder if this is another reason why Oswald wanted Isabella dead?

I mean, if she’s able to see through him so easily about a vulnerability of his, I could see that adding fuel to the fire of his jealousy?

He looks startled and terrified, and a terrified Penguin never does well. 😦

Maybe. I mean there’s really no excuse for what he did but you’re right, he does genuinely look scared. 

#this was such a poor writing decision

YESSS

Whenever there’s a new character to introduce, it seems like the writers give the actors time to figure out the character and what they do to develop the plot, but Isabella is like a momentary cough.

Chelsea is a really good actress, just seeing her as Kristin Kringle. She deserved to have a chance to explore this character instead of being given a few traits (“she’s obsessed with tragic love!”, “she can tell during a five-minute conversation that Oswald is in love with Ed too!”, “she’s a librarian who can accurately recreate a dead woman from a few pictures!”) and then is killed off a few episodes later.

I’m sure that this rant has been echoed by a number of people in fandom before who’ve said it more concisely or more eloquently than I have, but with a show like Gotham, each character has to have a point, or else they’re just taking up screen time from characters who can move the plot along.

All Isabella does is:

(A) Vertigo reference, woo! Let’s dislocate our arm with how vigorously we’re patting ourselves on the back for being so Smart!

(B) Cockblock Nygmobblepot from happening when this show has absolutely no problem with showing Barbara/Tabitha being in a romantic/sexual relationship.

© Give Ed a convenient excuse to try to kill Oswald, because every single potential romantic relationship can never be happy (despite the fact that I know of at least one show where the writers pulled it off, and it was lovely).

Just. Ugh. I’m cynically positive that the writers will never touch on Isabella again, because acknowledging Isabella would mean having to admit that they screwed up her plotline something awful, but I still wish they would try to salvage something from it.

Ya, I really doubt she’s ever going to be brought up again. If there was any hidden agenda, it would have been revealed in season 3. The time has passed now. We have to accept that she really was a random woman who fell for Ed. 

I’m just so bothered by the way this was used to twist Oswald’s love into something negative. Oswald is capable of making sacrifices for his loved ones. He put himself in danger to help Jim so many times in seasons one and two, even though Jim treated him like dirt. He announced to the GCPD that he was alive when Jim was accused of murdering him, even though it put his life in danger from Falcone and Fish. He went to Arkham for killing Galavan, even though he was just covering for Jim. And in 3×14, he was willing to die rather than give up Ed to the trio. He’s someone who loves intensely but by having him kill Isabella out of jealousy, the writers paint his love as a bad thing. And now they can just say that these two characters can never be together because Ed will never forgive him for killing his girlfriend (who was apparently the love of his life after knowing her for like a day and a half). 

Man, you’re so right about Oswald and Jim in S1 and S2. Like, who else would’ve voluntarily gone to Arkham to cover for Jim? That was some serious self-sacrifice for Jim, and there was no gain for Oswald. The most he got out of it was asking Ed to visit his mother’s grave while he was in Arkham.

RLT has mentioned a time or two that Oswald’s idea of love is so twisted, but at the same time, he loved his mother, he loved his father (I bet even regular Oswald would’ve loved his father dearly), and he seriously cared about both Jim and Ed.

Isabella’s death just feels like a plot device because Ed literally knew her for maybe a week, tops? I think? How can she be the love of your life if you’ve only known her a short time? Infatuation, sure, but true love? Either Ed’s getting her confused with Kristin – like a version of Kristin who knew his dark side and actually loved it – which doesn’t do justice to Isabella herself whatsoever, because she’s being compared to Kristin and being remembered in relation to Kristin.

Or the writers are reminding the audience with the subtlety of a baseball bat to the face that Ed is straight, despite the fact that he literally told Oswald the episode before that he would literally do anything for Oswald, and he was such a fanboy when he nursed Oswald back to health and gave him a place to stay.

It’s such… amateur writing, I guess? I would rather have had Ed be honored and flattered that Oswald loves him, and try to let Oswald down easily that, um, he doesn’t swing that way rather than have the Isabella plotline even happen in the first place. Yes, it’s such a comic book move to happen, but Gotham can do things as a TV show that a comic book can’t, and the writers need to take those kinds of risks.

Even if Nygmobblepot never happened in canon, that’s never stopped fandom in a million years.