White people who donât understand colonialism or imperialism talking shit about Daenerys Targaryen, meanwhile brown and black people with an intimate, experiential knowledge of both, loving our niña because she uses her power to help people and respects peoples cultures. She doesnât care what you look like or where you come from, only what actions you take.
Me whenever I hear the word âimperialistâ or âcolonialistâ about Dany:
i had to read a white person say âpoc donât like her because sheâs a colonizer.â me, a poc. I was dead.
Oh, I had to read how Dany was an âimperialistâ and âcruelâ because she destroyed the Slaverâs Bay economy. And she didnât take enough steps to save that economyâŠ
Oh, you are worried about the economy⊠Hmmm⊠Gee⊠I DONâT KNOW LUCINDA, MAYBE AN ECONOMY FUNCTIONING ON SLAVE LABOUR DESERVE TO BE DESTROYED!!
Jfc, the so called intellectuals exhaust me.
Another Black woman fan of Daenerys here. Her haters endlessly amuse me.
lol and Iâm another woman of color who adores Dany.
Iâve always found it interesting that Dany haters misuse the terms colonialism or imperialism when criticizing her. They act like they have some kind of moral high ground, yet theyâre the ones upset over a slave-based economy being crushed. Itâs almost like they have more sympathy for the slavers than they do the former slaves who gained freedom.
And donât get me started on how so many of them think they can speak for all POC as if we all only have one mind that theyâre an authority on.
They will not have my dragons, Dany vowed. They will not.
â she had it easy â yeah right. Wish she did. When all you people loved the other characters and think she didnât suffer enough, they had to sell her motherâs crown just to eat for a week.
One of the things that make me sympathize with her is that sheâs one of those who suffered the most.
She lost all her family, lived in poverty, always hungry, scared, and never safe, she had no childhood, never knew love and knew plenty of abuse. In a very sick relationship she found love and hope for a family, thatâs the main reason she started to accept her fate and circumstances, but then it was taken all away, again, before she could grasp it.
We see how other characters suffer, their pains, their tears, the injustice done to them and is so easy to say that the went through so much more and criticize Daenerys because apparently her life is too perfect.
All the other children can remember their families with love, pride, cherish the many moments of happiness they shared, and hope to grow up to be like them and make them proud.
Daenerys cannot do it, and all she has is a hole that has always been empty. Itâs so ironic, considering she has so much love to give, to her people, the slaves she freed and the dragons she brought to life.
Just because YOU donât seeit happening, it doesnât mean it doesnât affect her. Because it does.
I have always felt that the reason why people ignore Danyâs tragic backstory and/or hardships is because we donât get chapters/books establishing her character or setting. Her story in asoiaf starts in medias res.
In the very first chapter, she is getting engaged to Khal Drogo and things are happening to her (terrible things). There is NO establishing chapters where she is a naughty child or playing in the streets or laughing with her brother – so it is very easy to NOT sympathize with her and just see her as this tool for moving story forward (aka: dragons were needed, so she is dragon-lady).Â
This also makes all her trauma and her past to be seen through her memories – which antis find easy to discard (it is her memories, she is biased arguments).
However, she is also a teenagerlike the other main characters of asoiaf. She also longs for home. She had her family killed. She has starved. She was sold. She was raped. She was thrust in a hugely patriarchal society whose language she didnât speak at the time. She had to take some very difficult decisions as a child and as a teen.Â
But yeah, letâs take the fanon characterization of âspoiled ladyâ or âentitled queenâ and twist it to her canon characterization!
She felt very lonely all of a sudden. Mirri Maz Duur had promised that she would never bear a living child. House Targaryen will end with me. That made her sad. âYou must be my children,â she told the dragons, âmy three fierce children. Arstan says dragons live longer than men, so you will go on after I am dead.â
I had taken âif I look back I am lostâ to mean a willful erasure of the past, and a refusal to examine it. Dany repeats it 13 times over the course of the books, always in situations where she is uncomfortable or unsure of herself. She first thinks it when Mirri Maz Duur recalls the âbirthâ of Danyâs child:
âMonstrous,â Mirri Maz Duur finished for him. The knight was a powerful man, yet Dany understood in that moment that the maegi was stronger, and crueler, and infinitely more dangerous. âTwisted. I drew him forth myself. He was scaled like a lizard, blind, with the stub of a tail and small leather wings like the wings of a bat. When I touched him, the flesh sloughed off the bone, and inside he was full of graveworms and the stink of corruption. He had been dead for years.â
Darkness, Dany thought. The terrible darkness sweeping up behind to devour her. If she looked back she was lost. âMy son was alive and strong when Ser Jorah carried me into this tent,â she said. âI could feel him kicking, fighting to be born.â
Dany doesnât allow herself to remember exactly what happened in the tent. She thinks only of the darkness, then pushes past it, unwilling to face the details of it.
This willful erasure/forgetfulness becomes more obvious here, where Mirri Maz Duur blatantly points out that Daenerys lies to herself (to the point to where Dany believes her own lies):
Ser Jorah had killed her son, Dany knew. He had done what he did for love and loyalty, yet he had carried her into a place no living man should go and fed her baby to the darkness. He knew it too; the grey face, the hollow eyes, the limp. âThe shadows have touched you too, Ser Jorah,â she told him. The knight made no reply. Dany turned to the godswife. âYou warned me that only death could pay for life. I thought you meant the horse.â
âNo,â Mirri Maz Duur said. âThat was a lie you told yourself. You knew the price.â
Had she? Had she? If I look back I am lost. âThe price was paid,â Dany said. âThe horse, my child, Quaro and Qotho, Haggo and Cohollo. The price was paid and paid and paid.â She rose from her cushions. âWhere is Khal Drogo? Show him to me, godswife, maegi, bloodmage, whatever you are. Show me Khal Drogo. Show me what I bought with my sonâs life.â
Again and again, Dany repeats âIf I look back I am lostâ. When she learns of Eroehâs fate (a child, who was raped and killed by the dothraki) Dany repeats this mantra and does not allow herself to dwell on what happened or react emotionally to it (AGoT, Daenerys IX). She repeats it immediately after looking up a catatonic Drogo and calling him her âsun-and-starsâ (AGoT, Daenerys IX). It becomes a knee-jerk reaction to things that she simply does not want to think about:
She could feel the eyes of the khalasar on her as she entered her tent. The Dothraki were muttering and giving her strange sideways looks from the corners of their dark almond eyes. They thought her mad, Dany realized. Perhaps she was. She would know soon enough. If I look back I am lost.
âAggo,â Dany called, paying no heed to Jhogoâs words. If I look back I am lost.
If I look back I am lost, Dany told herself the next morning as she entered Astapor through the harbor gates. She dared not remind herself how small and insignificant her following truly was, or she would lose all courage.
Finally, in ADWD, Dany realizes what exactly sheâs been doing to herself each time she said those words:
If I look back, I am doomed, Dany told herself ⊠but how could she not look back? I should have seen it coming. Was I so blind, or did I close my eyes willfully, so I would not have to see the price of power?
For the first time, she debated with the past. She wondered if she was truly ignorant or willfully so. This moment does not last, however. She slips back into ignoring the past, forcing herself to see what she wants to see:
Much of the talk about the table was of the matches to be fought upon the morrow. Barsena Blackhair was going to face a boar, his tusks against her dagger. Khrazz was fighting, as was the Spotted Cat. And in the dayâs final pairing, Goghor the Giant would go against Belaquo Bonebreaker. One would be dead before the sun went down. No queen has clean hands, Dany told herself. She thought of Doreah, of Quaro, of Eroeh ⊠of a little girl she had never met, whose name had been Hazzea. Better a few should die in the pit than thousands at the gates. This is the price of peace, I pay it willingly. If I look back, I am lost.
She cannot and will not dwell on the tragedies that have happened, that she has brought on, and that she had endured. She constantly pushes these thoughts away. Those seven words are a coping mechanism, and a powerful one. They keep her moving forward past her mental hurdlesâ at great cost to herself, and others, unfortunately.
Iâd like to add that it is precisely because of how often she does this that I believe that Dany forced herself to love Drogo and the dothraki way of life. Dany finds it much easier to lie to herself about the bad things that have happened, if she cannot forget about them completely.Â
I think the most telling example to illustrate the incredible bias against Daenerys in the fandom would be to look at how Aegon Targaryen (the Conqueror) is treated in comparison.
Aegon Targaryen is widely considered a âbadassâ, a great conqueror and a great King. I have never ever seen anyone calling him âmadâ, or cruel or ruthless. I donât remember ever reading hate directed at him, even from the most anti-Targaryen (those anti-Targs are primary Daenerys haters anyway) portion of the fandom.
What Daenerys did in the fourth episode parallels what Aegon did during the Conquest, at a battle known as the Field of Fire. Aegon and his sisters faced the Kings of the Rock and the Reach (Lannisters and Gardeners, the original House of Highgarden) and burned thousands and thousands of soldiers, knights and Lords, killing all the men of House Gardener and ending that House in the process.
Daenerys burned a part of the Lannister army – who are her enemies – who killed her allies and who support a cruel selfish woman on the Iron Throne.
Yet Aegon is a badass and a cool dude but Daenerys is somehow âmadâ and âcruelâ and all of a sudden the Lannisters who were hated by the fandom since Season 1 became innocent puppies who didnât deserve to die.
I bet that if it was Jon Snow who was somehow riding Drogon, with the Exact Same Scene, I wouldnât hear a single word of complaint against him and he would be revered as the finest dragonrider and warrior who ever lived.
i believe itâs called misogyny
Thank you. Yall better preach. I honestly donât understand how an army killing their enemy is âmad Dany strikes againâ or whatever the fuck theyâre saying.
Daenerys burned the food from the Reach as part of a blockade to Kingslanding that Tyrion suggested in the previous scene and that Jon advised her to do. Yet when she did it everyone is like âWhy would she do that?â Jaime Lannister Mad King quotes.
Shut the fuck up and say you hate women. Be honest fandom. This is the main reason why I hope Jon never touches a dragon and if he does they roast his ass like Quentyn Martell.