ed & oswald reunited on set for season 4b filming
Tag: gotham s4
Jerome is going to be in for some shock when he attempts to throw down with Oswald and realises that Oswald actually goes so hard when it comes to violence lmao
Is no one gonna try to help the dude choking on his own blood in the background or is it too late to really do anything for him?
Me, every time when Oswald teams up with someone and it already looks awesome in the trailer: Please, no betrayal, please no betrayal!
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So whoās looking forward to another Penguin power rise??
Cuz you know Sofiaās gonna die, Penguin will be back on top and itās gonna be fucking blood in the streets.
Y E S. I am here to see the King back on top šš§
also the preview of Oswald and Jerome is amazing!!!!
Itās such a huge contrast to season 2 where Oswald was fixed to be completely sane, and here we get to see him rage completely like an animal along side clown boy.
Oswald has been suppressing too many things for too long. He was accused for ākillingā his father in season 3, for ‘killingā Martin in the car explosion, and now heās to blame for Carmine Falconeās death??????? NOPE. THATāS ENOUGH. My boy needs to vent, to scream, to cry, to laugh. And Jerome is there to help. And Jerome is there to help him. Good babies.
Agreed. I really hope we get some sort of callback to Fish’s words to him, “Make this city yours or you burn it to the ground.” And I am all for it tbh
honestly we better get a callback to fish telling oswald āmake this city yours or burn it to the groundā next episode what with these promo shots of oswald standing at the front line of an aesthetically apocalyptic tableau of burning debris and car headlights. he looks like a war general. there is nothing more important to me than penguin proving he isnāt a guy to fuck wifh
If Oswald isnāt already playing Sofia since day one, this is gonna be the dumbest and unrealistic plot ever since the ugly Isabella mess.
My theory would have been that Jim and Oswald were gonna team up against her later, if they arenāt already doing it (Youāre always one step ahead Oswald. *winks winks*)..
IĀ remember Robin recently saying once again that Jim and Oswald were two sides of the same coin, and sheās obviously using that, playing them both via their weaknesses, aka using the dark side of Jim to manipulate him, telling him sad stories about how his father is a ruthless and cold-hearted person since she was a child, and the soft one with Oswald via the motherly card, saying that she admires her father, and loves Gotham city as much as he does.
I mean⦠exactly.
This little scheme of making him dumb and innocent then pure evil and intelligent is getting really boring, they canāt throw a character so important like Penguin off the cliff just because they canāt find a plot different from what weāve seen in the past seasons, everyone trying to dethrone him just a couple of episodes after heās content with what he has achieved is so season 2 i canāt even.Ā
I want something fresh, something that will slowly cook throughout the entire season just to blow off on the last episodes, i kind of like Sofia, sheās a great character in personality and plans, but come on, iām sure they could have found a better way than split gotham in three again to make a plot.Ā
They will change his hair back to the usual when he ārealizes thingsā and becomes freak clever and proud⢠i can bet my life on that.
FINALLY. A POST THAT NAILS IT.
Also I echo @toriirdzpersonal tag⦠Where tf is Scarecrow!???
Iām gonna be honest, Iād like to think that heās already playing her, butĀ according to what the cast has said at the last con,Ā itās a possibility that he wouldĀ let Sofia get to him at first, and thatās the problem to me. Iām not satisfied with this characterization and writing choice at all, even if he ends up āwiningā against her, or whatever else.
I donāt know what Iām expecting here from the producers/writers here (not much anymore), but i would have thought itād be logical that heĀ wouldnāt buy Sofiaās tricks. Especially after what happened with Ed, and even more after having witnessed the whole Liza and Falcone drama back then in season 1.
Iād have thought that the point of the season 3 finale when he tricked and froze Ed was him standing up for himself, but mostly being back at this acting game (throwing a fake tantrum etcā¦), and his old tricks to get his way.
I donāt know, itās like every single new plot from that show is pointless, and that theyāre basically just recycling the old ones from the early seasons, except that this time theyāre kind of meaningless.
They already have butchered EdĀ characterization/character in the past, especially by making him āfallingā for Isabella (cause letās be real, not only it destroyed Nygmobblepot, and that was pretty much the point apparently, but it was also a very stupid way to destroy them, it was ooc for Ed and not credible at all.. the Ed from the early seasons, the one who tricked Jim, the one who was in Arkham and who saw StrangeāsĀ āworksā, would have never bought this. No matter how much he would think that this would so calledĀ āredeemā him in some way for Kristenās murder. He would have been 100% suspicious and superĀ paranoic), so Iām not eager to see another unrealistic plot if thatās the case for what theyāre doing/about to do with Oswald.
I also feel like theyāre heavily hinting at a possible wedding between Sofia and him (maybe this would be the reason why Ed is gonna mock Oswald in 4×08, according to the spoilers), but I really doubt that Oswald has/will have any sort of romantic feelings for Sofia whatsoever. This.. canāt⦠beā¦Ā And we saw that he clearly still has feelings for Ed anyway (he referred to him as hisĀ āone true loveā in the past after all, so I donāt think those have vanished into thin air, even after what happened).
About Scarecrow, I think weāre far from being done with him, and that weāre gonna see him again. Theyāre definitely not good at handling that many different plots at the same time, cause they often never refer to what happened recently when thereās a new episode, so it feels super odd/off every time, as if those would have been forgotten while thereās already some new ones to deal with.
To me what feels even more weird is Oswald not mentioning Ivy..We know that sheās gonna come back later in the season, but yeah.. Like i said, it feels weird when theyāre doing that.
What really hits me the most is the obvious statement that they canāt control more than two plots at a time; itās a new world and a new universe every time a new episode comes and it bothers me beyond words. Itās like taking a cleaning sheet to start all over.
That being said now that i think about it they pretty much sum the intelligence and capacity of Oswaldās power in the actual storyline with only Ed, at least a tiny bit, what happened to the guys that interrupted the Lounge opening? What happened with the knowledge he had from previously encountering Liza and revealing that between a sweet face and āgood intentionsā thereās maybe something else? At least Oswaldās innocence with Sofia would be a little believable if he was distracted looking for the ones that interrupted the opening AND sprayed him with the fear toxic, come on, by this time he sure would have known about Scarecrow.
It bothers me that one of the characters with lots of screentime is that manipulated by the own writers.
Okay, does anyone else find it weird that Oswald let Sophia see him weak in 4×05? Iām not referring to him getting misty-eyed at his motherās goulash, that makes sense because it caught him off-guard and he left right away. Iām talking about him with his leg being in pain.
Think about it. We have never seen Oswald explicitly show that he lets his leg get the better of him. He walks with confidence, despite his limp, even after getting beat half to death and even after he was literally thrown off the docks to die, he neverĀ lets his disability be shown as something that bothers him despite being in constant pain.Ā
Now, he knowsĀ Sophia is up to something. SheāsĀ ābuttering him up,ā as he says.Ā He knows sheās a Falcone, and that by itself is reason for suspicion enough and itās all but confirmed for him when she served him his motherās goulash. Now, you could argue that he might think Sophia is doing these things genuinely.Ā
The parallels between her actions and Edās in season two are incredibly obvious, after all. Ed played & sang Gertudeās song to Oswald, Sophia serves him Gertudeās iconic dish. Ed nursed Oswald back to health after being shot, Sophia helps Oswald with his leg pain. Itās clear why Sophiaās manipulation would work, weāve already seen that Oswald is strongly affected by the emotional impact of actions along these lines; thatās not my point.
My point is: the thing that sticks out to me is that even with this parallel, with Ed, Oswald refused to show his physical weaknesses while healing. He never complained about his shoulder hurting from the bullet wound, and he certainty never complained about his leg even when on the brink of death. Oswald was certainty emotionally weak then, his mother had just been murdered and with Ed pulling up memories with the music. He still didnāt show any sort of physical weakness, not with being shot and certainty not with his leg.Ā Doesnāt it seem a bit suspicious that Oswald would let Sophia, a woman he already suspects is up to something (good or bad, it doesnāt matter), see his weakness with his leg, a physical malady that heās handled hiding for years without problem?Ā Heās hid it even upon the brink of death, and yet heās stronger now than ever, more powerful than he was even as mayor, and he shows this weakness to a woman he suspects?
I could be overthinking this, of course, and end up being proven wrong in the next few episodes. But the only conclusion that makes sense to me based solely on the aired episodes so far is that Oswald choseĀ to show Sophia that weakness to see how sheād respond, maybe to test her intentions or to see how much information about him she knows. It just seems like this is a weakness that Oswald wouldnāt show just accidentally, Oswald has always been smart at playing people and it makes total sense to me that heās trying to feel her out with something like this.Ā
Yess!!!!


