Oswald calling Jim out.
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Gotham Is Giving Total Psychopath Professor Pyg His Own Musical Number, Because Gotham
Next week, Gotham is bringing another Bat-villain to its nightmarishly delightful take on DC Comics in the form of Michael Cerverisâs Professor Pyg. But apparently, frequent Broadway star Cerveris will be bring a bit of the olâ razzle dazzle with him, alongside⊠well, you know. The âgruesome serial killer with a creepy pig maskâ stuff.
Ceveris dished on his multi-episode stint at Pyg to USA Today, revealing thatâplease pretend to be surprised for a momentâthat the noted murderer will find a kindred spirit on the show, in the form of fellow noted murderer Jim Gordon.
According to the site, Pygâs arrival in Gotham City leads to a string of cops being brutally murdered as part of Pygâs twisted sense of justice⊠except for Jim Gordon, who finds his fellow officers of the law turning against him when they realize the reason he isnât on Pygâs kill list is because Pyg doesnât see Gordon as a corrupt cop. Which is odd, considering that Jim Gordon a) has killed a shit-ton of people and b) is currently using Sofia Falcone to raise an army of criminals to stop Penguinâs very effective crime prevention program. But anyway.
The real delight of Pygâs arrival on Gotham, according to Cerveris, is not his relationship with Jim, but a planned encounter with the Penguin⊠which of course leads to Professor Pyg starring in his own âsong-and-dance number.â
âEspecially when they had somebody who played Sweeney Todd, they knew the direction they wanted to go,â Cerveris says, adding that he hopes Broadway fans who donât watch Gotham âmight give it a look simply because of that, and find that they have a new favorite show.â
I love the idea of Broadway fans tuning into Gotham only to find a serial killer in a pig mask doing a showtune. Love it.
Professor Pyg squeals his way onto Gotham starting next Thursday, October 26.
Gotham Is Giving Total Psychopath Professor Pyg His Own Musical Number, Because Gotham
I was so sure Oswald was about to bring up Jim killing Fish in this scene.
Bruce is not the hero this city needs
This city needs to ban Jim Gordon
Ben McKenzie Interview on Live with Kelly and Ryan 2017
I love how even Ben says Penguin stops at certain points and even has limits when it comes to crime and such
Given this new article here are my thoughts
Gotham season 4 premiere âPax Penguinaâ sets off a new era for the city as Penguin lowers crimes but uses a controversial method that makes the Gordon and the GCPD look useless. Hereâs a few non-spoiler teasers ahead of the episode!
The start of Gotham season 4 kicks off three months ahead of the season 3 finale. The city has had time to get over the attacks of the virus from Alice Tetchâs blood. Thereâs a brand new mayor, Penguin is back in charge over the gangs and criminals, and Gordon is still as broody as ever.
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You guys have no idea how happy I am that Oswald is finally going to get Gordon for all the one sided, selfish, just taking, ungrateful âpartnershipâ they had. Seriously. I used to really like Jim, but the way he has always treated Oswald irked me to no end. Will forever say that Oswald was so helpful and kind, never asking for anything in return, at least in the beginning before Ozzie started to see what a douche Jim was.


So seeing that it looks like in ep.1 he will be at the top of his game like always, at least in this regard is just

If this is the case, I honestly cannot wait for Penguin to take Jim down a few pegs.

I mean honestly, idk wtf is Jimâs problem with Ozzie. He acts like Penguin is the bane amd to blame for all his hardships and troubles. Like man, get your head out of your ass. You have faced far worse villains that have made you really suffer than Penguin ever did. I really canât recall a time Oswald truly did anything malicious to Jim so like???? Tf Jim!!
Again, which is why I am so glad that Pengy is going to start to make moves against him.
When Oswald finally started to stand up to Jim, I was so glad.

Just look at him in this top gif. No longer letting himself be intimated by this selfish dochebag. Itâs why he started to make Jim owe him favors because Oswald was very selfless and risked so much to help him and for what? Nothing. No real thank you or gratitude. I mean Jim is always willing to throw Oswald away, give him up to be killed without batting an eye, letting him rot in Arkham. Just urghhhh.
I think our bird had it right when he said:


(Now, I just started watching season 3 and I do know that the Tech Virus releases a personâs darkest hidden desires and that Jim becomes infected. From my understanding and spoilers that Iâve seen, Ozzieâs gang had the antidote, but this idiot kills Fish destroying it).
I mean, Jim himself admits that heâs a monster.
And donât even get me started on how because of him, Fish dies in Oswaldâs arms. Another loved one. Dying in his arms. Just GOD.
Itâs just really Jim? Really? Time and time again we have seen Jim want to give in to his dark side and in early s3, idk, but he seems to turn into an even more selfish and carless guy. Just *angry silent screaming*

And wow. Sorry. Idk how this turned into a anti Jim post apparently. Seriously, I could go on and list everytime Jim was a selfish, inconsiderate, douche to Oswald, but back to the top.
This is why I am so glad Ozzie will finally start to get Jim back for all the grief he has put him through.
Me to Oswald:

Iâm rooting for u Ozzie! Go get emâ!
Oswald in the season 4 trailer.
#but you were ok with Falcone back in s1#and apparently still willing to do deals there#goddammit Jim#donât make me cross before the season starts (@sunlitroom)
right??? Also, remember that when Oswald was mayor, crime was way down and the economy was doing great.Â
It really does seem that Jim thinks Oswald is the cause of all his problems or something. I mean Oswald has helped him out so many times and really only asked him to do something bad like once since Jim would just take and take and not respect Oswald at all or treat him nice.
Not only that, but I just started rewatching season 2, ad there are far worse villains there who have actually made Jim suffer and given him a beatdown. Why he seems to hate Oswald so much, I just can’t even???? He needs to get his self righteous head out of his ass, if you ask me!!
Isabella realizing that Oswald is also in love with Ed.Â
I wonder if this is another reason why Oswald wanted Isabella dead?
I mean, if sheâs able to see through him so easily about a vulnerability of his, I could see that adding fuel to the fire of his jealousy?
He looks startled and terrified, and a terrified Penguin never does well. đŠ
Maybe. I mean thereâs really no excuse for what he did but youâre right, he does genuinely look scared.Â
#this was such a poor writing decision
YESSS
Whenever thereâs a new character to introduce, it seems like the writers give the actors time to figure out the character and what they do to develop the plot, but Isabella is like a momentary cough.
Chelsea is a really good actress, just seeing her as Kristin Kringle. She deserved to have a chance to explore this character instead of being given a few traits (âsheâs obsessed with tragic love!â, âshe can tell during a five-minute conversation that Oswald is in love with Ed too!â, âsheâs a librarian who can accurately recreate a dead woman from a few pictures!â) and then is killed off a few episodes later.
Iâm sure that this rant has been echoed by a number of people in fandom before whoâve said it more concisely or more eloquently than I have, but with a show like Gotham, each character has to have a point, or else theyâre just taking up screen time from characters who can move the plot along.
All Isabella does is:
(A) Vertigo reference, woo! Letâs dislocate our arm with how vigorously weâre patting ourselves on the back for being so Smart!
(B) Cockblock Nygmobblepot from happening when this show has absolutely no problem with showing Barbara/Tabitha being in a romantic/sexual relationship.
© Give Ed a convenient excuse to try to kill Oswald, because every single potential romantic relationship can never be happy (despite the fact that I know of at least one show where the writers pulled it off, and it was lovely).
Just. Ugh. Iâm cynically positive that the writers will never touch on Isabella again, because acknowledging Isabella would mean having to admit that they screwed up her plotline something awful, but I still wish they would try to salvage something from it.
Ya, I really doubt sheâs ever going to be brought up again. If there was any hidden agenda, it would have been revealed in season 3. The time has passed now. We have to accept that she really was a random woman who fell for Ed.Â
Iâm just so bothered by the way this was used to twist Oswaldâs love into something negative. Oswald is capable of making sacrifices for his loved ones. He put himself in danger to help Jim so many times in seasons one and two, even though Jim treated him like dirt. He announced to the GCPD that he was alive when Jim was accused of murdering him, even though it put his life in danger from Falcone and Fish. He went to Arkham for killing Galavan, even though he was just covering for Jim. And in 3×14, he was willing to die rather than give up Ed to the trio. Heâs someone who loves intensely but by having him kill Isabella out of jealousy, the writers paint his love as a bad thing. And now they can just say that these two characters can never be together because Ed will never forgive him for killing his girlfriend (who was apparently the love of his life after knowing her for like a day and a half).Â
Man, youâre so right about Oswald and Jim in S1 and S2. Like, who else wouldâve voluntarily gone to Arkham to cover for Jim? That was some serious self-sacrifice for Jim, and there was no gain for Oswald. The most he got out of it was asking Ed to visit his motherâs grave while he was in Arkham.
RLT has mentioned a time or two that Oswaldâs idea of love is so twisted, but at the same time, he loved his mother, he loved his father (I bet even regular Oswald wouldâve loved his father dearly), and he seriously cared about both Jim and Ed.
Isabellaâs death just feels like a plot device because Ed literally knew her for maybe a week, tops? I think? How can she be the love of your life if youâve only known her a short time? Infatuation, sure, but true love? Either Edâs getting her confused with Kristin â like a version of Kristin who knew his dark side and actually loved it â which doesnât do justice to Isabella herself whatsoever, because sheâs being compared to Kristin and being remembered in relation to Kristin.
Or the writers are reminding the audience with the subtlety of a baseball bat to the face that Ed is straight, despite the fact that he literally told Oswald the episode before that he would literally do anything for Oswald, and he was such a fanboy when he nursed Oswald back to health and gave him a place to stay.
Itâs such⊠amateur writing, I guess? I would rather have had Ed be honored and flattered that Oswald loves him, and try to let Oswald down easily that, um, he doesnât swing that way rather than have the Isabella plotline even happen in the first place. Yes, itâs such a comic book move to happen, but Gotham can do things as a TV show that a comic book canât, and the writers need to take those kinds of risks.
Even if Nygmobblepot never happened in canon, thatâs never stopped fandom in a million years.
Jim you asshole. Oswald has done so much for you, most of the time asking for nothing in return, risking his skin for you. And not to mention being so happy to see you and inviting you to parties, and how do you treat him – like dirt. (Granted in this scene, Jim was worried about Barbra, but not like Oswald knew and that doesn’t really excuse his behavior the other times).
I mean, yeah, Oswald is a criminal and a remorseless killer a lot of the times, but like??? Get your sensible moral compass out of your butt. No wonder Oswald begins fighting back and making sure Jim’s debts start to get paid.