I HAVE NO IDEA WHY I LIKE KYLE AS BRITNEY SO MUCH AH
It was pretty fcked up of Stan and Kyle to get a degrading pic of Britney just for the cash, but I like how they at least tried to help and save her. Moreover, how they admitted how they were just as guilty as those reports and really all the American people.
Ok so youāre not the first to ask me about Kyman but I figured, its about time I answer this question š Prepare yourselves, its a long one! ha!
Iāve been active in fandoms in general four about 6 years, of course I wasnāt too into replying or making gifsets back then (I just learned to make gifsā¦then gifs with text! yay me!). But I did make a few posts on here (for other tv shows) but nothing too major. Now that Iām older (yes 25 is old afā¦) I can express myself without having to worry about negativity coming from antis or crack ships, but mostly that I can back up my claims and my reasons for why I like what I like and why i DISLIKE what I dislike.
Kyman has been around for YEARS just like Style and Creek (actually everyone ships the boys with the boysā¦) so its not hard to believe there is more support for Kyman than Kydi. That being said,Ā I do not like Kyman, and in general, I donāt like Cartman with anyone. Not even for fun or a crack ship because of who he really is, which isnāt a good person. I just canāt ship him with someone else in the show that I really care about. Cartman is the definition of a narcissistic, racist sociopath. And to put him in a relationship with anyone is toxic and unthinkable honestly. He is self-absorbed little shit who doesnāt care about anyone else on a deep level (which is what you need in a true relationshipā¦even friendship), you need to be able to express sympathy & empathy), how can a person like Cartman be in a healthy relationship if he cant express those traits?
This isnāt like a villain who can get a redemption arc and find love and change for the better, forever. Cartman does not want to change, he sees nothing wrong with how he treats people, with what he believes in and what he stands for. Even as a crack ship (trust me, I have a lot of crack ships for fun), I UNDERSTAND the appeal, I get why people believe its canon or will be, but for me its not. Cartman would have to be a completely different person for me to want to ship him with someone. Trey & Matt are smart fellas, they created cartman, they know him and even if we enjoy him in the show with his friends getting into weird shenanigans, it doesnāt mean they dont know what theyāve created, it doesnāt mean WE the fans, ignore what cartman has done or is capable of doing. Thereās a reason why he was able to get a girlfriend and why he no longer has one now. The first glimpse even before Heiman should be his relationship with his mom and a deeper look into it was in season 10 the episodeĀ āTsstāĀ where Ms Cartman has to hire a nanny to discipline Eric. At the end he manipulates his mother AGAIN to satisfy his needs and to obey him. So if he does this with his mom, you know hes going to do that to whomever he dates, and I WILL not stand for that. Did not stand for it during Heiman wouldnāt stand for it in Kyman, or Buttman or w/e else is creeping aroundā¦
The reason I like south park so much is because despite all these boys & girls being 10 year olds, Matt & Trey make them appealing to adults because in some ways they inhabit a certain intelligence and morality that WE understand. Sure theyāre still little kids and their naivety is STILL there when it counts and its still very funny & charming to say the least. But the fact remains that Trey & Matt put our boys in relationships not only to have some humorous moments but also REAL moments that speak to us whether its a healthy or toxic relationship (platonic, familial & romantic alike). Thatās what makes south park a success.
Closing this out, my final words are that in my honest opinion I donāt believe Kyman is canon nor that there is a hidden meaning behind it. Trey & Matt have made that pretty clear the past 21 seasons. Cartman & Kyle are rivals in the most violent/unhealthy (albeit funny) ways. This isnāt some Naruto & Sasuke or Goku & Vegeta relationships where they want to be better than their counterparts because they feel like they have something to proveā¦those examples are intense rivalries but eventually they build strong foundations in a deep rooted friendships. Meanwhile, Kyman are rivals because Kyle & Cartman stand for different things in many subjects, the hard hitting ones mostly and its not endearing, its exhausting and more often than not, we side with Kyle because Kyle embodies good while Cartman encompasses evil. And Kyle doesnāt deserve that, he needs someone who will go the distance just like he would for them. His concern for Heidi is one of the reasons I root for Kydi (or why I adore his friendship with Stan). Not just for the cuteness but because while everyone pushed her away, he tried to pull her in BEFORE he found out about his feelings. And he almost got to her too. Heidi turning into cartman was the worst arc (tho she had her funny moments NGLā¦) and her being awful to Kyle was terrible, but I also knew that wasnāt really Heidi at her core, this wasnāt her, so I knew Kyle would be ok and he would be able to tell her off (which he does in the finale).Ā That doesnāt excuse her for what she did, but in the finale she recognize the worst in her and she stopped it. When has Cartman EVER acknowledged hes done wrong and genuinely felt sorry for what hes done or concern for someone else other than himself?
I still enjoy Cartman in the main group with the boys and getting into crazy adventures, but not in romantic relationships with anyone. He pisses me off more often than not, but I can still laugh and not take the show too seriously when its meant to be funny.
Ok I ranted long enough but just to be clear, despite my opinion on Kyman, I stay in my lane. I do not spread nor send hate to those who ship Kyman or believe in it. It is their right to ship what they want. I just stay out of it or block it. Lifeās too short to be on here hating everything. Being in so many fandoms and seeing so much hate is so exhausting and Iām not gonna waste my time. Im going to spend it with you lovely people who ship the same ships and reblog my gifsets and send me great comments and questions. I live for that š
Something like two weeks MONTHS ago @ericbroflovski asked me how I personally interpreted Kyleās ~Moral Character~, and I wrote so many words that I figured it was a waste not to clean them up and organize it into a formal meta post. Full credits to gina/sweeticing, whose input helped refine these thoughts, & who I definitely quote at least once down here.
*rolls up my fucking sleeves, cracks open the whiskey and eats some grapes* Okay,Ā whoās ready to get Extremely Pretentious and take South Park WAY too seriouslyā¢.Ā
1. PHILOSOPHICAL IDEALISM AND STRUCTURE
So, Kyle is often referred to as an āidealistā in the sense that he believes, ultimately, that humanity is capable of rising above the ugly aspects of its nature and is drawn back to this belief again and again despite being continuously disappointed. But Iād go further than the commonly understood definition and argue that Kyle is a Idealist character in the (boring) Philosophical (jargon) sense of the word as well, which is to say that his default view of the world is actually a lot more on the āspiritualā end of metaphysics than you might expect from a character who often gets pinned as āthe logical oneā.
š„ There is beauty in destructionš„ 