itās never over in gotham city
theyāre going to learn something about the other that they didnt know
still apart of each others lives
the connection between ed and oswald goes in a very surprising direction
oh u know, just rlt hyping up nygmobblepot for this season
Tag: nygmobblepositivity
Edward Nygma + āThe PointāĀ Ā Ā Ā |Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā (2×07 / 3×14)
Stop rationalizing your feelings ed.You dont wanna kill him ed
I always found it interesting how Ed’s other persona/hallucination didn’t give a sh*t that they killed Kristen. He took a lot of fun hiding the body and getting Eddie to realize he enjoyed the rush of almost being caught. While with Ozzie, he yelled about ‘the point’ after Oswald tried to make him realize he needed him and Oswald saw and loved him for who he is.
I mean idk, but Eddie seems so in denial not wanting to admit that he loves his bird. Always Isabella this and that, but later on he doesn’t mention her at all or actually grieve her after he ‘kills’ Oswald. Same with Kristen. He just went from sad to grateful, to not really mentioning her anymore. Yet, with Ozzie he felt guilt. And took measures to hallucinate him.
You wanna talk ego, Riddler?
āProjection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person.ā
Watching season 3, I find it interesting how when Ed was torturing Butch and Tabitha, he seemed annoyed with Oswald. Saying that he could be ‘self centered.’ And yes, if u ask me, Oswald can be narcisstic. Yet, the funny thing is that Ed can be too, I think. I mean he does think himself superior to others, especially intellectually, and constantly does want to be in the spotlight and recognition.
It’s amazing how similar Oswald and Ed are to one another. Things Ed says he dislikes in Oswald are pretty much present in him too.
Some Important Things I Need To Say About Edward Nygma:
- Ed is very likely autistic and does not process emotions the same way neurotypical people do. Heās not good at reading othersā emotions or understanding his own. This means he has TERRIBLE, impulsive reactions to just about everything and he doesnāt think things through.
- Ed is in love with Oswald, he just doesnāt know it yet.
- His attachment to Kristen Kringle, and to an even greater extent Isabella, is a performance. Heās reading from a script, following cues, behaving as he believes heās supposed to behave in this situation. But with no real grasp of what his feelings actually are, again, because he struggles to read and understand them.
- Witness how Ed hasnāt mentioned Kringle hardly at all since killing her, and how short-lived his guilt was. How quickly he jumped from sorrow to gratitude, with almost no refraction time.
- Witness how Ed BARELY mentions Isabella the ENTIRE time heās torturing Butch and Tabitha, how he gets way more wrapped up in the actual design of his plot than misguided revenge. How he doesnāt even THINK to make sure Butch has actually done it, doesnāt ask about details of the killing, or accuses him properly, which is how he is so taken aback when Butch lies about it.
- Witness how, while no doubt Isabellaās murder is one of many reasons Ed is hopping mad at Oswald right now, he doesnāt confront him on it at all.
- Edward Nygma is a man who does not know himself hardly at all. He was so shocked by ENJOYING killing, not the murder itself, which was heavily premeditated, but the enjoyment of it, it drove him into a self-schism.
- Ed has no schema for affection and Oswaldās love doesnāt manifest in cues Ed knows how to recognize. Ed has no way to read Oswald, nor to read his own attachment to Oswald because he cannot fathom this kind of romantic attraction, he had no idea it existed.
- So, when Ed says, āYouāre my best friend as well. Remember that.ā He is telling the truth.
- He is not emotionally savvy enough to manipulate Oswald this way
- And deep down, Ed cannot kill him because he loves him. Ed knows this now. He canāt put words to it, he doesnāt know what it is, he canāt articulate it. But he knows he canāt kill him, doesnāt want to kill him, and this is the best way he can express it.
- Not to say that heās not MAD, not to say that everything he told Barbara isnāt ALSO true, and heās going to DELIBERATELY AND WITH GREAT MALICE AFORETHOUGHT MAKE OSWALDāS LIFE A LIVING HELL. Butā¦ these two expressions are not mutually exclusive. Especially in the mind of a poor Edward Nygma who cannot parse emotions well enough to understand that hate stems from love.
- But that doesnāt change the fact that Ed wanted Oswald to know, and to remember, that Ed considers him his best friend. Whatever Ed does now will be in that lens for Oswald. No matter what shit Ed pulls, and BOY there will be a lot of it, Ed wants Oswald to remember that heās his friend and to bank on that.
- Arguably, this could be to paralyze Oswald so he wonāt retaliate. But that requires a sophisticated amount of emotional manipulation for the one person Ed has ever truly loved. That requires deliberately breaking a man he couldnāt watch die.
- We will see what happens, if Edās hatred and anger blinds him to the point that he would hurt Oswald like this. Butā¦ Ed didnāt have to say that. Ed could have left and still hurt him. Ed can do everything heās about to do and it will still gut Oswald. But saying thatā¦ is a promise that he will come back. If Oswald can just wait, can sit there and take everything, and trust in Edā¦ the way Ed trusted him, so completelyā¦ then Ed will come back to him.
- Because one day, in this long, violent, painful process, Ed is going to realize heās in love with Oswald. That heās been in love this whole time. That thatās the reason heās doing all of this. And when he realizes it, heāll come back. We just have to wait.
š„ There is beauty in destructionš„ 