Ed: I donāt love you
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Some Important Things I Need To Say About Edward Nygma:
- Ed is very likely autistic and does not process emotions the same way neurotypical people do. Heās not good at reading othersā emotions or understanding his own. This means he has TERRIBLE, impulsive reactions to just about everything and he doesnāt think things through.
- Ed is in love with Oswald, he just doesnāt know it yet.
- His attachment to Kristen Kringle, and to an even greater extent Isabella, is a performance. Heās reading from a script, following cues, behaving as he believes heās supposed to behave in this situation. But with no real grasp of what his feelings actually are, again, because he struggles to read and understand them.
- Witness how Ed hasnāt mentioned Kringle hardly at all since killing her, and how short-lived his guilt was. How quickly he jumped from sorrow to gratitude, with almost no refraction time.
- Witness how Ed BARELY mentions Isabella the ENTIRE time heās torturing Butch and Tabitha, how he gets way more wrapped up in the actual design of his plot than misguided revenge. How he doesnāt even THINK to make sure Butch has actually done it, doesnāt ask about details of the killing, or accuses him properly, which is how he is so taken aback when Butch lies about it.
- Witness how, while no doubt Isabellaās murder is one of many reasons Ed is hopping mad at Oswald right now, he doesnāt confront him on it at all.
- Edward Nygma is a man who does not know himself hardly at all. He was so shocked by ENJOYING killing, not the murder itself, which was heavily premeditated, but the enjoyment of it, it drove him into a self-schism.
- Ed has no schema for affection and Oswaldās love doesnāt manifest in cues Ed knows how to recognize. Ed has no way to read Oswald, nor to read his own attachment to Oswald because he cannot fathom this kind of romantic attraction, he had no idea it existed.
- So, when Ed says, āYouāre my best friend as well. Remember that.ā He is telling the truth.
- He is not emotionally savvy enough to manipulate Oswald this way
- And deep down, Ed cannot kill him because he loves him. Ed knows this now. He canāt put words to it, he doesnāt know what it is, he canāt articulate it. But he knows he canāt kill him, doesnāt want to kill him, and this is the best way he can express it.
- Not to say that heās not MAD, not to say that everything he told Barbara isnāt ALSO true, and heās going to DELIBERATELY AND WITH GREAT MALICE AFORETHOUGHT MAKE OSWALDāS LIFE A LIVING HELL. But⦠these two expressions are not mutually exclusive. Especially in the mind of a poor Edward Nygma who cannot parse emotions well enough to understand that hate stems from love.
- But that doesnāt change the fact that Ed wanted Oswald to know, and to remember, that Ed considers him his best friend. Whatever Ed does now will be in that lens for Oswald. No matter what shit Ed pulls, and BOY there will be a lot of it, Ed wants Oswald to remember that heās his friend and to bank on that.
- Arguably, this could be to paralyze Oswald so he wonāt retaliate. But that requires a sophisticated amount of emotional manipulation for the one person Ed has ever truly loved. That requires deliberately breaking a man he couldnāt watch die.
- We will see what happens, if Edās hatred and anger blinds him to the point that he would hurt Oswald like this. But⦠Ed didnāt have to say that. Ed could have left and still hurt him. Ed can do everything heās about to do and it will still gut Oswald. But saying that⦠is a promise that he will come back. If Oswald can just wait, can sit there and take everything, and trust in Ed⦠the way Ed trusted him, so completely⦠then Ed will come back to him.
- Because one day, in this long, violent, painful process, Ed is going to realize heās in love with Oswald. That heās been in love this whole time. That thatās the reason heās doing all of this. And when he realizes it, heāll come back. We just have to wait.
me when I kidnap the writers, just a casual day
I am legitimately bummed that they’re possibly going this route… I want Oswald happy of course, and I want him to have a relationship but… with Ed. Life only gives you one true love. And to have him having never had these feeling to having them for Ed, to just someone new is… I don’t Os to get the Gordon love life treatment. Nygmobblepot was deeper and slower burning and… I just don’t see how it will be so easily replaced? And I personally don’t want it replaced. :(
sofiafalcones-deactivated201712:
And this whole āhe thought love was a weakness, it changes how
he will thinkā stuff kind of pisses me off because THAT WAS HIS WHOLE
SEASON THREE STORY LINE WITH ED?! I hate to inform Gotham, because lord
knows they love repeating storylines every season, but repeated
storylines begin to lose impact.p r e a c h.
listen: nygmobblepot was and still is special, no matter how many love interests they give ed or oswald, they will never be the same as when they are together. oswald literally said ed is his one true love. ed and oswald both said about each other āheās the only oneā like. these two are soulmates. they are meant to be. their relationship was being built up since the very first episode of the entire show, with so many subtle/not so subtle parallels and hints that the writers purposely put there.
you know whatās making it even worse is that we have absolutely no closure to the romance storyline and they are ALREADY giving them love interests (merely speculation but watch ed and lee become a thing), like we donāt know if oswald still loves ed, we donāt know if ed loves oswald, we donāt know what the entire 3×15 was about, we literally have no explanations to anything and they are already jumping to another romance storyline/s and giving the two/one of them a love interest. this is truly the worst direction they could have possibly taken with them. not giving any closure to their romance storyline, beyond the friends/enemies thing, and instead giving them other love interests.
and yes this season in general does look like itās just made up of repeated storylines. from what iāve read so far, it looks like we have oswald having it all and being the king of gotham at the beginning and then losing everything again, ed struggling with an āidentity crisisā, sofia falcone = valerie vale 2.0, jim being ādarkāā¦ā¦ā¦literally which one of these havenāt we seen already
anyway, all that being said there IS a tiny chance that they could use him (or herā¦which is a whole other level of n o) as a lazy plot device to get ed jealous and have nygmobblepot back togetherā¦ā¦not exactly the Quality storyline i was hoping theyād get but itās better than nothing lmao