littlehollyleaf:

freckledandspectacled:

flux–and–flow:

littlehollyleaf:

baskervilleshund:

keen on first-name basis

#I just reblogged this like ….  #two days ago but …..  #I need to again……..  #I’m not sorry  #look how happy Ed is in his first appearance  #boiiiiiiii you are an odd ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  #you feel happiest when you’re basking in your hero’s presence (WHO HAS PENGUIN AS A HERO)  #and you want senpai to  #notice you and like you and teach YOU how to be a murder bird but  #you’re REALLY happiest like…taking over his life or more like the parts of his life he just ignores like his well being and trying to get  #the stains out of his own clothing …  #you construct submissive roles for yourself to fill because they make you HAPPIEST  #ok  #meanwhile Oswald either a) never wanted you or b) wanted you around all the time always just marry him become his husband  #there’s no in between or maybe-maybe-not feelings here I love how much Oswald throws himself into  #something after he’s decided it’s good but you know what’s funny? he doesn’t do that with anything else really  #he RELENTLESSLY chases what he wants until he gets it and does whatever it takes to get it  #but he never did that with Ed Ed just…showed up in his life ….until the tables turned  #and Oswald got possessive ……and went back to being ruthless ….but he can’t win Ed through relentlessness  #like Ed understands what’s going on half the time!!!!!!!!!  #JUST CASUALLY HAVING A FEELS BREAKDOWN IN THE TAGS DONT MIND ME  #to each other he is always just out of reach FUUUUUCK  #GOTHAM YOU FIX THIS!!!!!!!! (via @flux–and–flow)

reblogging because I forgot these tags which tap into my flail some, ahhh!! and also I’m just SUPER FASCINATED with the paradoxical idea of Eddie taking on SUBMISSIVE roles to fulfill his desire to CONTROL/MANIPULATE, but like – yeah!

he THROWS HIMSELF into SUPPORTING OSWALD via COMPLETE AND PERSONAL CONTROL of specific aspects of Ozzie’s life, so he kinda IS simultaneously controlling AND submissive

(actually similar to how I felt he was with Izzy a bit – because he submitted to her dressing up etc., but then, uh, took control of her sexually, you could say… soooo… he likes control but craves BOUNDARIES in which to exercise it??)

holly i’m so sorry lol we were having this meta/headcanon jam like, before xmas? and i’m replying SO LATE LOL 

but OMG I AM ALWAYS HERE TO DISCUSS THIS especially because it’s not only VASTLY entertaining that i’m pretty fucking sure ed is a fucking SUB despite being this really tall guy with the pidgeotto douchebag hairstyle and all (i’m not giving him credit for being well dressed in s3 since oswald bought him those suits LOL, on his own ed tends to dress like a nerd from the 40s/50s) but yes, seriously, it’s sooooo fascinating that he – 

you know what, you put it so well, i’m just gonna end up stealing your words at this rate, the paradoxical hilarity and irony of it, that he exercises control by manipulating his way into submissive roles where he feels Important and Appreciated like…….i definitely see this as a key component of why they work so well together, get along so well, and would have such an excellently satisfying relationship, not even JUST in bed lol but throughout all of it. ed’s desire to take care of oswald is clear from the moment we realize he’s taking care of oswald in his apartment back in s2. that’s why this is a great gifset – you can see it in his face in the second gif. it kinda saddens me that so many people ignore this CANON STUFF because they want the characters to follow The Height Rule or think their costumes make them fit some kind of sexual fantasy aesthetic. sure, people gonna headcanon what they want, and it’s all cool, but you know me well holly, we both have a desire to try to take what canon has presented and go “alright, now how do i learn to understand this” and doing that with these two has been

FASCINATING  

also because she is main partner in crime in discussing this stuff, go read @freckledandspectacled‘s fics which are not only delicious & well-written but show & explain the psychology of all of this very well, especially with how oswald fits this! one of our latest convos about it, she summed things up beautifully 

@flux–and–flow bae ❤
Also this meta is aces 

@littlehollyleaf
to add onto the Izzy thing: with both Kristen and Isabella, Ed assumed a dominant role because that was what /they/ wanted, he’s not naturally like that. He’s really quite awkward and gets stepped on a lot. 

Isabella quite literally smacked the shit out of him to get him to take charge and face her, AND HE LIKED IT. WHAT A GOOD SUB LIKE 👊👍👌  

So I would argue that he doesn’t even take control sexually with her, because he just assumes the sexual role that is most pleasing to the person he is with, and yeah so far that has been people who wanted him to be more dominant BUT that could easily change. 

For example: when Kristen was pleased that he was being so “forceful”, Eddie got forceful. He acts in reaction, and is very versatile in that way.

What if someone was asking him to assume a submissive role, or he thought that was the best way to get into their bed? I’d assume, based on past behavior, that he’d take a submissive role to please them in that way.

Thanks for the great replies guys! 🙂

Great great point about Eddie (submissively) reacting to and becoming what the person he likes and wants to please needs him to be – that works with how he is ‘motherly’ with Oz and often actively mimics Gertrude as well. Not just because he surmised it was the key to controlling/manipulating Ozzie, but because he wanted to be the person Ozzie most needed/desired because he caaaares about Ozzie and saw it as the best way to gain Ozzie’s affections! 

Thanks for clearing stuff up re: Eddie being forceful with Kristen and Izzy – makes total sense. I have nothing to add, you covered it perfectly 🙂