Tag: randy marsh

traitor-boyfriend:

been thinking about this for a while but i think one opportunity that sadly goes to such waste in fiction w stan and kyle’s relationship dynamic is the fact that they’re an interfaith couple. neither of them gets written often as being particularly religious or spiritual as they get older, which i understand, but it also tends to ignore the effect of having grown up religious as a part of their character histories and how it may shape certain aspects of their personalities or worldview as adults. i’ve never read a fic where kyle was consistently practicing and despite thinking him growing up to be relatively secular makes sense i think you could just as easily make the case that he’d have a healthy devotion to his being jewish both in terms of a belief system and as a culture; the basic tenets of judaism are obviously something important to his outlook and within their household. he’s certainly more overtly religious than stan, anyway – who i usually feel similarly to in regards to being secular but i think he would fall squarely in the “i don’t go to church and don’t follow organized religion but i believe in god” or “i don’t believe in god but i believe in something” mentality. but i think it adds a unique layer to their relationship and has a lot of potential for bonding or conflict. when they get married who solemnizes the ceremony? would stan convert to judiasm? if and when they have children how will they be raised? which practices/ holidays/ beliefs of their respective religions are they willing to be flexible w and which are they not?

really religion in general as a motif is severely underutilized which is sad considering it’s such a recurring topic within the show and against the cultural backdrop of south park as a rural american small town which demographically skew towards devoutly christian but i do find it a little disappointing how rarely i’ve come across anything dealing w religion in a meaningful way beyond “my religious parents are homophobic.” anyway i have no other reason to bring this up other than that’s it’s been on my mind for months and that it’s something i have a lot of half-started ideas and plans to explore if i could ever finish anything i start

marshwalker-stan:

* takes a long drag from cigar * Here are some Unpopular Opinions ™

•Kyman is abusive, and Cartman isn’t the only abusive one. Kyle is just as abusive in their relationship as Cartman. Kyle is not nearly as shitty of a person as Cartman, but they’ve both tried killing each other (even if they have also both saved each other) They both start arguments, they both thrive off the other suffering, and they both intentionally do things to hurt/sabotage one another. Sorry to say it folks, relationships are about building each other up and bringing out the best in one another. That is a healthy relationship, yes there are bumps and yes there can be problems but if your relationship is dedicated to making each other feel shitty and whatnot it’s not healthy it’s toxic.

•Style is a good ship, but has problematic aspects. One of them being how Kyle handles Stan’s depression. He abandoned his friend in a time of need for Cartman. In fact that entire episode was reallllyyyyy out of character, but regardless Kyle still gave up on his friend bc he was “making him feel depressed too” rather than try finding the source of the problem and trying to help like he’d normally do he left him in a time of need. There’s also the aspect of Stan occasionally being a jerk and not caring about others either.

•Now despite popular belief, no I don’t think Stan is an alcoholic. He drank it in one episode where it became a problem, then at the end was shown taking a sip from his secret bottle. 1) a sip isn’t nearly enough to get drunk, alcoholics get addicted to becoming drunk stan wasn’t drunk he took a sip maybe enough to get a buzz at most and 2) he’s never shown drinking it again and 3) He CANONLY has developed coping mechanisms. He CANONLY suffers from trauma/repressed memories and CANONLY has found coping mechanisms. INCLUDING acknowledging his addictive personality and doing things to keep away from things that he can become addicted to. While the episode only covered Freemium games it implies other things like ALCOHOL too. So sorry guys Stan ISNT an alcoholic and doesn’t wanna end up like his dad. (Also, Stan is canonly a happy drunk not a depressed drunk)

•Wendy leaving Stan for Token wasn’t a dick move. I love stan, I do, hes the most relatable character for me and I love him. But Wendy deserves better. He tries his best but he constantly does things that either anger her or out right disrespect her. She’s not perfect either, no, and I think if they both made adjustments they could work things out. (Also just bc I say this doesn’t mean I don’t ship Stendy or Stendyle bc both those are my shit)

•Creek is a forced relationship and overrated. It was literally no different than an arranged marriage and yes don’t get me wrong they do support each other and it is a healthy relationship, but idk the whole forced aspect of it is just bad and if it’d just happen naturally it’d be a lot better. Regardless I still like it, but I mean the only reason they got together was to make other people happy. Again that’s not what a relationship should be about. But in recent episodes they have been shown to actually care and at the very least be very good friends so * shrugs *

•Butters isn’t a sweet innocent angel. He’s fully capable of being an asshole and has shown it multiple times. He’s still the most naive and probably sweetest of the boys, but he’s not an innocent baby.

•Same goes to Jimmy who I also love but jesus dude he made fun of his friend because his mom fucking died. (Deleted scene from Reverse Cowgirl) Which mind you Butters was in on.

•Clyde Donovan deserves better and I will NOT rest until he gets the appreciation and love he needs

OKAY BUT LIKE ALL OF THIS^

That is literally why I cannot stand Kyman. Notp for me. People can ship whatever tf they want, but like have the decency to admit it is super unhealthy and toxic. Though I feel Cartman is the most abusive, Kyle is definitley no push over and can kick his ass. I mean he has done things like egging Cartman off to jump off a roof when everyone else was saying it was a bad idea. I love Kyle because of his super kind and caring heart, but like everyone on the show he can be a dick at times. Lol. He is, again, super kind and has a good heart, but Kyle is no saint. Still one of the more nicer characters, I think.

And omg yeah. As much as I love Style. Otp. It definitley is not exactly healthy. It’s why this ship has caused me so much pain!!! lol. Like I cringe and cry everytime Stan and Kyle don’t support each other. LIke c’mon guys you’re super best friends and allowed to make mistakes, but sometimes it’s just like wtf?! Be more supoortive and understanding!

Idk if in Assburgers Kyle was ooc cause still watching the series for the first time, but in a way I understood where he was coming from. When interacting with a person who is negative and depreased it really is hard and draining. That’s why it’s important to set boundaries for your own mental health and well being. But yeah, it’s pretty just ???? that Kyle ddn’t seem to take the time to help Stan like ???

Also, that’s a interesting note about Stan and alcohol! Will have to really watch out for that as I reach later seasons!

This is mainly what I wanted to say. I don’t ship Stendy, but biased cause Style! And idk if Stan and Wendy could work out, but she does deserve better. I mean despite being together, Stan hadn’t talked to her for weeks. I don’t think I see them having that much in common? Not sure tho.

I like how you mentioned Creek. Not a good way to start a relationship, but I’m pretty happy wih it because it is literally one of the HEALTHIEST relationships I havr ever seen. And as someone with an anxiety disorder, it’s super important to me that Craig really tries to help and understand Tweek. Especially with all the stigma and discrimination there is about mental illness.

My final comment will be on Butters. Just YES. This is why I ha e enjoyed seeing him slowly stand up to Cartman in later seasons. Before he kind of just took it, but I’m glad to see him stand up and talk back to Cartman. Butters is one of the nicest, if not the nicest character on the show. But you’re right. He’s no angel. I mean just look at what his intentions were with Professor Chaos. Despite his plans failing and being goofy and funny, idk man, the intent of causing chaos and panic was stil there.