This Presence Even More Terrifying Than the Slender Man Is Driving Teens to Suicide, But Why?

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In South Dakota, a sinister urban legend named ā€œWalking Samā€ is thought to have driven over ten teenagers to take their own lives, but how can a mythological figure drive people to such desperate measures?

The scene of the shocking spate of suicides is the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, home to the Oglala Lakota sub-tribe of Sioux Native Americans, but also something a lot more ominous.

The Native American tribe believes in a mysterious, shadowy figure that walks the plains whispering suicidal urges into people’s ears. Although the Oglala Lakota tribe refers to him as the ā€œTall Man Spirit,ā€ this haunting presence has became colloquially known as ā€œWalking Sam.ā€ Tribe president John Yellow Bird Steele explained that many Sioux believed in: ā€œA suicide spirit similar to the Slender Man.ā€

Reservation minister, Chris Carey, even went as far as to tell The Times thatā€ ā€œA Tall Man spirit is appearing to these kids and telling them to kill themselves.ā€

Although blaming the suicides on this spectral figure of traditional folklore might seem far-fetched, there is no denying the amount of young people taking their lives on the reservation is much higher than the national average.

Since December, a distressing 103 suicide attempts have occurred on the reservation, and out of them, nine young people between the ages of 12 and 24 have died.Ā While the these deaths are obviously saddening and shocking, a foiled mass suicide is perhaps the most chilling tale to creep out of Pine Ridge. In February, Pastor John Two Bulls was alerted that a group of teens had planned to kill themselves in a mass suicide. After rushing to the spot, he was confronted with a cluster of nooses hanging from the trees and a group of young people who had converged at the spot.
Luckily counseling was offered and the teenagers were dispelled before they could harm themselves, but this tale could have ended in enormous tragedy.

Santana Janis who commited suicide at age 12.

Just Who is ā€˜Walking Sam?’

Walking Sam is just as showy a figure in folklore as he is in real life. The origins of the legend cannot be pin pointed due to the Native American oral tradition of passing down stories, but it is believed that his name has been spoken for centuries.

Known by multiple names, including ā€œStovepipe Hat Bigfootā€ and ā€œBig Man,ā€ Walking Sam is strangely similar to the much better known Slender Man in appearance.

He is said to be seven foot tall with an impossibly lean figure and long, spindly limbs with no mouth. When he extends his arms, the dead bodies of Lakota men and women hang from them.

Walking Sam is similar in appearance to Slender Man

In folklore, Walking Sam’s presence is not intrinsically hostile. It’s said he was sent to this earth as punishment and is constantly seeking company to whom he cannot speak.

In Peter Mathiessen’s 1983 book about Pine Ridge, In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,he is described as follows:

ā€œThere is your Big man standing there, ever waiting, ever present, like the coming of a new day… He is both spirit and real being, but he can also glide through the forest, like a moose with big antlers, as though the trees weren’t there… I know him as my brother… I want him to touch me, just a touch, a blessing, something I could bring home to my sons and grandchildren, that I was there, that I approached him, and he touched me.ā€

How Widespread Are the Beliefs?

According to The Daily Dot, many local people believe in Walking Sam and he has made his presence known at tribal council meetings with government officials. Blogger, Mike Crowley, explained how at one meeting:

ā€œA woman, who was elderly but otherwise quite lucid, described Walking Sam as a big man in a tall hat who has appeared around the reservation and caused young people to commit suicides. ā€

He also reported meeting a local bookstore owner who told him

ā€œThere really are bad spirits out there on the reservation, and you need to be careful. She said that if you go looking for them, you might just find them.ā€ Ā 

The arid ā€˜bad lands’ in Pine Ridge

Another Explanation

Although Walking Sam a captivating tale, the real reason for the dramatic spate of tragic suicides is probably more to do with the extreme poverty that the Oglala Lakota tribe live in.

The Pine Ridge Reservation has some of the worst rates of alcoholism and drug abuse, violence and unemployment in America, and life expectancy for men is below 50 years, the lowest in the Western Hemisphere.

Racism has also been cited as a reason that so many Oglala Lakota teens are driven to kill themselves. Santana Janis, who killed herself aged just 12 years old, was called a ā€œfilthy Indianā€ in a hotel lobby just days before she died, and Pine Ridge students were doused with beer and forced to leave a hockey game outside the reservation for their own safety just two months ago. In the words of Santana’s grandfather:

ā€œOur kids today just want to die because they’re sick of all this oppression.ā€

Walking Sam might have become the spiritual totem for these suicides, and a figure that the teens themselves empathize with, but this shouldn’t distract the eyes of the world from the very real challenges the Oglala Lakota people face in their day to day life.

Walking Sam might be a compelling myth, but the teen suicides are real and tearing the soul of the reservation apart.

Tell us whyDo you believe in Walking Sam?

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Good job killing yourself while the kingdom is in great peril and leaving everyone and your poor mother to stop the enemy. Not to mention the entire moon kingdom turning to stone. Just good job.

Oh and let’s not forget how again you decided to commit suicide when the world is still in jeapordy once more.

It must have been super hard thinking you killed your love. Yes, but you have your responsibilities. The Sailor Senshi watched the people they love die, but they still stood up and fought.

They took so much damage and have suffered so much. For Usagi. And she decides to do this?! Great job endangering the world!

Look how physically hurt Mars is. Imagine the other girls. Again, they took a lot of damage.

Usagi is no where near worthy of the title princess. Even until the end she was crying until her bf helped her. The relationship and view she has with Endymion is toxic:

– relies on him for strength

– alwags being saved by him

– killing herself because she can’t live without him

So much for the opening song lyrics of not needing a man’s protection.

The other girls rely and support each other. Drawing strength on one another, but they can still stand and fight on their own. They know their responsibilities and the sacrifices they have to make. To be strong. Usagi just throws all that away.

The Risk of Deserters

midnight-in-town:

silyabeeodess:

wondrouswatchdog:

[I’ll be discussing these ideas under the assumption that Shinigamis working for their ā€œforgivenessā€ means that they’re working to gain access into heaven, though this hasn’t been explicitly stated. Some of this is just theories on top of theories, I fully admit it, so I’m not stating any of this as a solid idea.]

I was talking about Undertaker being a deserter with @midnight-in-town and she pointed out how in chapter 105, Sascha said there are others who have seceded too:

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But the fact that Sascha says ā€œevery once in awhileā€ makes it seem not so common – especially considering the whole world would have Shinigamis, it could be centuries in between a single country having a ā€œseceder.ā€ Still, this got me thinking whether or not that’s a giant flaw within in whole Grim Reaper system considering they’re dealing with people’s souls. It seems risky right? And where are the limits on these faults?

This is all just speculation, and some of this is really a shot in the dark, so if anybody else has an idea, feel free to say…

The General Purpose of the Shinigami Dispatch

Let’s first look at why the system is set up as it is in the first place for the Shinigamis’ sake – not for the souls.

Individual Meaning

The fact that there are deserters shows that there is free will. The Shinigamis have kept this component of human nature even after death. The Dispatch is not some sort of collective mindset, though as a whole they seem to generally agree on what matters (the souls).

From what they’ve said and how I’ve taken it, being a Shinigami is basically a second chance for a person to not go to hell under the belief that suicide a mortal sin. The only difference between them and regular people, besides their new supernatural abilities, is that their ā€œsecond lifeā€ is set up to basically force them to have to appreciate life. In our life, one learns that through friendships, helping others, supporting others…for a Shinigami, they’re left to learn this through witnessing other people. It’s hard for them – it’s a punishment, after all. It’s not our traditional sense of improving as a person. But presumably it’s effective.Ā 

In my opinion, it’s basically an alternative to hell or traditional purgatory – it’s like a very specific purgatory for these people who took their own lives.

However, because it requires individual thought, they can’t rely on others to pull them through. Back to my initial statement, they still have to have free will so that they can individually make decisions and come to their personal enlightenment by their own terms. The horrible thing is that with free will, there are bound to be deserters. I’ll get to that in a bit though.

Collectively

Despite the individuality, I think they can help each other some, though. Just the next in the chapter, Sascha calls being a Shinigami a vocation:

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Ā This is seen as odd for a lot of reasons. A vocation is, by definition:

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In other words, it’s your calling. It’s your purpose. And that’s a pretty grim purpose. The only reason I can think as a vocation – which would give it more reason than individual contemplation – is that they can at least be there to help motivate the others towards forgiveness.

So, if one does fail, that can’t settle well for any of them who knew that Shinigami. It might even make it more of a personal offense.Ā 


TheĀ ā€œSecedersā€ – So are they a Risk?

If people were perfect, the Dispatch as a pathway for redemption would work and they’d learn their lesson with no problem and presumably get to heaven (if that’s the purpose of the Shinigami Dispatch in the first place). Well, if people were perfect, they wouldn’t need this as a path in the first place. But the point is there: with having human qualities such as free will, there is room for mistake. Mild mistakes aren’t a big deal, but what about the big ones? Can these ā€œdesertersā€ be forgiven?

Grell was forgiven. There was a punishment of course, but it wasn’t too long afterwards (especially for an immortal being) that they were back to their regular Shinigami post. Grell’s not a complete deserter, though.

This leaves the question if Shinigamis have it easier than humans though on their path to salvation, because if they’re supposedly immortal and can have second chances until they reach ā€œenlightenmentā€ (we assume), then that means they can’t ever be sent to hell. This seems to give them an advantage over people in their ā€œfirst life.ā€ Is this fair? I don’t know.

…or certain offenses are considered unforgivable and Undertaker crossed that line. But what could be worse than murder, like Grell? Is it worse to just desert than to murder but not consider yourself different?

Grell may have murdered the physical body, but murder does not equate to ruining the soul.

So is it that Undertaker messes with souls? Some say he wants to revive those on the lockets, others argue that the bizarre doll soul-tampering in general is bad enough…but Undertaker had already quit before he started doing this. At least, he must have because he says he hasn’t been an active Shinigami in 50+ years and we don’t know enough to say if he started tampering with souls earlier. Nothing says iirc.

That means the other option is that he thought his past actions couldn’t be forgiven, even if he could have, so he figured nothing mattered and went a step further to steal the souls and then it became unforgivable for real. Or maybe he didn’t care or want forgiveness, but now he doesn’t want to die and go to hell either so he hides out and works on his more taboo stuff because he’s got nothing to lose so long as he’s not caught.

In short: When UT deserted originally, maybe it wasn’t a ā€œriskā€ but just regular personal rebellion from free will. Now he’s messing with souls and like the impending WW1 plot, everything suddenly becomes a bigger deal for Shinigamis.

Sascha mentioned deserters, but never said that a deserter was somebody who messed with souls. Every Shinigami we’ve seen except Undertaker have seen the souls as something not to mess with.Ā 

So is this Dispatch Association actually a risky, flawed system?

In my opinion, as a whole, flaws are not necessarily a risk. ā€œSecederā€ can mean a lot of things, and it could just mean Shinigamis trying to escape in general. Undertaker may be special (in a negative way), and that’s what makes the plot more interesting. Regular Shinigamis aren’t a threat, and deserters aren’t a threat necessarily if they live as people without trouble. Maybe Undertaker stands out as the first real threat to people. It could have been tried before, but the new technology of the 1800′s is actually making it worrisome because it could be possible.

I really like a lot of what’s mentioned here since there’s so much speculation going around about the Shinigami and their punishment.Ā  I’d like to add Eric as an example from the musical though, since he was also tampering with souls–or rather capturing them in attempts to use themĀ for Alan’s recovery from the Thorns of Death.Ā Ā Furthermore, even though Shinigami are technicallyĀ immortals, they can still be killedĀ as proven by Eric’s and Alan’s deaths, at which their second chance ended.Ā  For all their strengths theĀ ShinigamiĀ have their own perils to face, such a fighting against demons over souls.

Ā Even more than that, they’re not immune to their own Death Scythes, so it’sĀ actually possible for them to attemptĀ commit suicide a second time if they tried.Ā  (This, I personally believe, is the main reason Death Scythes have to be registered andĀ are kept under such rigid control by Dispatch.Ā In the OVA, ā€œThe Tale of Will the Shinigami,ā€ we even see that Death Scythes basically have to be checked out of General Affairs before they can be used by the agents in Collections.)Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 

We’ve seen Shinigami die, but we’ve never seen one we knew had been ā€œforgiven.“Ā  That leads to the question of what happens when theyĀ are forgiven?Ā  Do they simply disappear and move on?Ā  And what about someone likeĀ Alan, who contracted the Thorns of Death and perhaps possibly never learned before the diseaseĀ took his life?Ā  What happens for those who are made to faceĀ their death a second time?Ā  What if it’s onlyĀ after their second death that they are judged for Heaven or Hell?Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 

In a video I watched a few months ago about suicide victims that had jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge, it said that out of theĀ 1% of survivors, every one of them said they regretted their decision instantly.Ā  The victim they were interviewing, Kevin Hines,Ā (who is now an author btw) said that, "The millisecond my hands left the rail,Ā it was an instant regretā€ and thatĀ he remembered thinking, ā€œNo one’s gonna know that I didn’t want to die."Ā Ā Taking that information and putting it intoĀ perspective for the Shinigami, I see many of them holding that same regret and seceders stemming more so from a loss of hope in the endlessness of their situationĀ or a case of desperation.Ā 

Thoughts, @midnight-in-town and @wondrouswatchdog?

@wondrouswatchdog and @silyabeeodess

I like both your thoughts a lot and I just wanted to contribute on a few things šŸ™‚

  • About the Undertaker

Here comes the rambling part but UT is an extremely interesting character to analyze. To sum up: I think that when he went back to the human world after deserting becauseĀ ā€œhe got curiousā€ it wasn’t a crime in itself since, as wondrouswatchdog pointed out with Grell, I’m pretty sure he would have been forgiven at that time (because deserters are a thing).

No one expects the Shinigami job to be easy, except maybe for Sascha because it’s theirĀ ā€œvocationā€, since it’s to be taken as a long punishment in the first place, until the Shinigamis learn their lessons about giving up on their own life.Ā 

So back to UT, I agree that he probably became a threat from the moment he started messing with souls and death but, and that’s where it becomes interesting for me, you were wondering whether he cared or not and I actually don’t think he gives a single care about his actions.

Whoever those seven guys were and no matter how they got along with him, they’re the reason he probablyĀ ā€œforgotā€ he wasn’t really a living human until death came by for them and he found himself all alone once again.
UT is a character made of contradictions but the main thing is that, while every reader surely thought he was just funny in the head with probable sociopathic tendencies for a long time, ch105 was the first proof that he’s in reality becoming totally desperate, hence the impossible BD project and many other crazy things (like sacrificing a big amount of people on the Campania for his experiments).

(You can see it pretty well actually: UT in the Campania arc with Ryan is just beyond ruthless with his words even though he’s also responsible for all the dead people, while he became very emotional after just seeing a picture of Vincent in his younger days. It wouldn’t be an understatement to say that he might be losing it for real)

I think seceders/deserters in general are just guys who can’t put up with the job anymore and it’s understandable because redemption after a sin like suicide would certainly never be so easy to reach (so they probably have to work for a looong time), but while UT probably started as aĀ ā€œnormal secederā€ (he had enough of his job + curiosity), things escalated when those seven guys died.

We have no idea about his previous life and how long he worked as a Shinigami, but we can guess he might have forgotten there was a time limit to his enjoyment with a few humans he found particularly interesting and that’s probably what started it all: if he found a new interest in ā€œlivingā€ at the side of those seven guys, the fact death took them away from him is something he probably couldn’t accept.Ā 
…And it’s even worse in case he actually had a family with one of them as some theories propose.Ā 

So I really think UT stands out asĀ ā€œthe first real threatā€ from the Shinigami world (if anything because BDs were probably never a thing before, according to Will + Grell + Ronald) and if he’s caught… I don’t think redemption or forgiveness will be considered at all.

  • About the Death Scythes

Really good point on death scythes being able to inflict major damages even to Shinigamis and this is just a headcanon of mine, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of UT’s scars were actually done by a death scythe.
… To be entirely honest, at one point I even considered the idea that maybe he indeed tried to attempt suicide a second time at the beginning of his time as a Shinigami by stabbing himself through the heart or by trying to cut his own head.

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Time will tell what these scars really are about but I just… wouldn’t be surprised.

  • As for Redemption…

The whole point of the Shinigami job is to…

  1. give a chance to people who committed suicide not to go to Hell directly by having them watch countless records of people with probably happier lives than them (not always, but still)
  2. have a way to collect human souls

So I think that if/when a Shinigami was punished enough (= worked nicely for a really really long time), then redemption can be reached because they learnt their lesson and in that case, they don’t necessarily have to go to Hell but instead their tortured soul can rest in peace.

Technically I’m thinking that in Kuro, even though suicide is a major sin, theĀ ā€œrulesā€ take into account that people who committed such an act were probably extremely sad and desperate, and even though they have to be punished and to learn what exactly they gave up on, mercy and forgiveness can still be upon them if they repent enough.

As you said silyabeeodess though, suicide can also be a decision takenĀ ā€œout of the blueā€ in a real moment of desperation so maybe the Shinigami job is also a way toĀ ā€œgive them a chanceā€ at gaining peace in the afterlife, because humans make mistakes and suicide can definitely be one of them (as through my own experience of talking with people who committed suicide and who were saved, I always heard that they regretted trying, not necessarily just for them but also for the people they would have left behind).

Thanks for tagging me you two. šŸ™‚

Just a quick little theory-ish question, how do you think each of the reapers committed suicide and why?

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shinigami-mistress:

Hello Anon and thanks for the question. This will be a bit of a long answer, and please know this is all headcanon. I might be dead wrong about some of this, and this is all just my opinion. Also, I will also be obviously discussing suicide in this answer, so please be forewarned.

Now, most of my thoughts come from the one page in chapter 105 where we learn that all the Shinigami used to be human.

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First, we have Grell. I would venture to guess that Grell would have been the one shown cutting her wrist i the images since it looks like the hand has painted nails. This would also explain Grell’s fascination with the color red.

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I’ve thought a lot about the reasons why and have actually changed my mind quite a few times. There are a lot of possibilities with Grell. She’s emotional and dramatic – so she might have thought of it as her grand exit from the stage. She could have been a misunderstood and abused outcast who had been terribly shy and meek in her human life, and she just couldn’t stand the pain. The more I examine the character, however, I think the big hint lies in the fact she often equates love and death. I think there’s a good chance Grell died as part of a suicide pact with a lover or even a murder/suicide. She wanted to be with someone forever and took her own life in a vain attempt to do so.

Next is William. I’m not completely sure with method William would have chosen. He would have wanted something that was effective, but he’s not the kind to draw attention to himself. I think a gun would be too loud and messy for him, so he would be more likely to have overdosed so he could have simply gone to bed and not woken up. However, I might be backwards on that reasoning and logic.

William strikes me as someone who was never good at expressing his emotions. He did what he had to get done and was reliable, but he was the kind of person that was often overlooked and alone. He would tell himself that he was happy, but he might have been lonely. This is purely my headcanon, but I think he might have been a businessman. Each day was a routine, and he was efficient with his routine, but he was also stuck in a bit of a rut. There’s a chance that he simply wanted to escape the endless repetition his life, which would be ironic since he was punished with the same sort of existence.

On to Ronald, who is very much a ā€˜live in the moment’ kind of guy. I think he was always the party type, although he was also a good worker. When it was time to work, he worked hard. Afterwards, he partied hard, but he wasn’t the kind to think of the future. He didn’t like to plan ahead or think of the past. While he was seen as responsible enough during the day, his nights was filled with alcohol, drugs, and women. At some point, balancing both sides of his life became too much. Something happened to push him over the edge. Maybe his reckless lifestyle finally hurt someone other than himself, and he just couldn’t face it. After all, he’s a decent guy overall.

I think it’s most likely that Ronald jumped off a building. First off, those shoes in the picture do look like his.

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Jumping is sometimes considered an impulsive action since it doesn’t take any planning, which would fit into Ronald not thinking ahead. It’s also interesting to note that Ronald now has to jump down with his lawnmower for it to be effective, which could mirror his death.

Undertaker is a bit of an odd one for me. I have an idea that he might be the original Shinigami and might have never been human. I’ve read a theory that he was the one who collected the souls of the others, which is why he is shown as a solid figure on the cover of 106 while the others are mere skeletons.

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I rather like that theory. If he was human, however, then I think it might have had something to do with someone he loved or thought he loved since his actions now seem related to attachments. He might have been a bit like Grell in that regard. Since the drowning figure shown appears to have long hair, that could have been him.

There’s really very little to go on with Alan and Eric since we only have them in the musical and the single image of the manga. If all the Shinigami are repeating their lives as humans to some degree, maybe there’s a hint there. Alan might have been ill as a human, and took his own life in order to avoid suffering. He’s another one who might have taken an overdose as that would fit his more somber personality. Eric is brash and impulsive. Just like in the musical, his actions might have led to the death or injury of someone he cared for, and he didn’t feel he could live with the guilt or without that person. Since his death was more passive since he simply allowed Sebastian to kill him, perhaps Eric allowed something to run over him – like a train or horse. He purposely put himself in something’s way so that he could end his life.

Sascha’s death seems to the easiest to guess since the hairstyle looks the same as the image with the rope.

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Since Sascha claims to be happier now as a Shinigami, it’s safe to assume that Sascha’s life hadn’t been an easy one. There’s really no hints as to why beyond that. Sascha is a bit of an observer with the use of a camera, so there could be the feelings of not being able to participate in life. Also, there is a hint of a slightly morbid fascination that had preceded death. Sascha might have heard that those who commit suicide become Shinigami or was just curious what happened after you died.

There’s almost nothing to go on with Rudgar. He smokes, so perhaps something to do with fire? His personality seems close to William’s in some ways, so there might be a similarity to their stories.

Finally, there’s the newest Shinigami, Othello. The clue might be right there in his name since the character of Othello kills himself after finding out that his wife, whom he had just killed for betraying him, had been faithful. Like the Shakespearean character, perhaps our Othello had been lied to and done something horrible while believing the lie. After discovering he was tricked, he stabbed himself rather than allowing himself to be arrested.

That’s just my thoughts of the matter. I’ve read other theories as well, but i hope that answered your question, Anon. Have a lovely day!

I agree on some of it (I’m also using http://kittenkrush.tumblr.com/post/119492117860/black-butler-105-theoriesĀ for comparison to this OP)Ā :Ā 

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Grell SutcliffĀ – Ok, so it’s not proof of anything. Just my musings on Grell’s suicide…. I think Grell DROWNED, like @kittenkrush has suggested. The hair is long enough in the drowning pic to match Grell now (though maybe not at death). But here is my added content: we also have Grell in the OVA in which they put on a production of Hamlet. In Hamlet, Grell plays Ophelia, who goes mad and later drowns. Wikipedia makes this note about Ophelia: ā€œShe talks in riddles and rhymes, and sings some ā€˜mad’ and bawdy songs about death and a maiden losing her virginity. After bidding everyone a ā€˜good night’, she exits.ā€

This reminds me of Grell’s comments about the Campania’s maiden voyage being like a rough ā€œfirst timeā€ā€¦ The flower Ophelia carries around for herself is rue, and Wikipedia makes this important note: ā€œRue is well known for its symbolic meaning of regret, but the herb is also highly poisonous and has powerful abortive properties.[8]ā€ Abortive properties! Another parallel to Grell’s inability to bear children?? When Queen Gertrude announces Ophelia’s death (she apparently climbed a willow tree branch, the branch broke, and Ophelia fell into the brook and drowned) she says that Ophelia was ā€œincapable of her own distressā€. It’s a sexton at the graveyard who claims it was suicide. Drowning is appropriate for Grell in another way: it’s a form of suicide usually chosen by women….

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William T. Spears – I’ll go out on my own limb (sorry, Grell and William) and suggest that William JUMPED off the building. For two reasons:

1. His death scythe is particularly good for reaching far away… and way up high/down low.

2. His first appearance in the manga has him appearing on top of a tall building. He looks like he could fall off at any moment. Then he jumps off (and lands on Grell’s head).

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3. As mentioned above in the OP, William is a businessman type. One stereotypical suicide method for businessmen is by gun. However, they are also known to jump from the roof or out a high window of a tall building, say… where they worked?

Sascha HANGING: that’s pretty much got to be him with the noose, right? The imagery of these suicides seems to be through his POV, too, so it would make sense to show how he died, at least….

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Rudgar SHOOTING himself, because it seems to fit. He seems a lot like William, in some ways, I agree. Very business-like. And, as I said when talking about William, businessmen who commit suicide often do so by gunshot to the head.

Othello – I’ve already said a few times I think his death parallels that of Othello from the Shakespearean play. Except I replace the Moor’s wife with our Othello having a male lover. I can’t exactly make any canon claims about his sexuality, but it seems most-likely. False evidence was used to convince him of his lover cheating; he strangles (or otherwise kills) his lover. Discovering the truth, he then STABS himself. I’ll add that I think he ends up in reaper forensics because it was false, planted evidence that led to his tragic end… and our Othello wants to discern the truth. Perhaps this one is Othello? Can’t really tell what the hairstyle is like (or the shoes LOL):

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Ronald Knox – those shoes on the top of the buildingĀ are very similar to his. Not exactly the same, but similar. @shinigami-mistress, you make a good point about how Ronald’s death scythe is most effective if it’s brought down on someone….Ā 

TheĀ ā€œCiel in Wonderlandā€ OVA casts Ronald as the Dormouse. There is a real dormouse, which is known for its particularly long periods of hibernation. However, the characterization in the story seems to suggest a portmanteau ofĀ ā€œdormā€ (sleep) +Ā ā€œmouseā€, since this aspect is played up so much… and Lewis Carroll was a master of portmanteau…. A nod(ding off) to sleeping pills? Maybe, but probably not.

And then that other blogger’s post about this subject brought up something very interesting – Ronald attacks Sebastian with a pocket knife very similar to the one shown in the suicideĀ ā€œscenesā€. Yana-sanĀ shows Ronald’s watch at least three times during the Campania arc… and that’s on his wrist…. So, SLASHING his wrists/arteries.

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Alan Humphries – We are getting into much rougher territory here. I don’t want to say he took pills because he was already ill, or something. And I agree that theĀ ā€œThorns of Deathā€ is purely due to his experiences as a reaper. I placed his name with a randomĀ ā€œdeath sceneā€ that I can’t even figure out…. Maybe some of them used the same methods. He could be another one to stab himself, for all I know.

Eric Slingby – I put him with the PILLS because, IDK…. Somehow he seems the type to me. Really, I got nothing.

Undertaker – His suicide method has to be really old, right? Poison maybe, but not pills. Not a gun. I don’t even think he could have found a building tall enough back then (I think he’s super old, like died around 1200… Ivanhoe). Crying over Vincent’s body having been burned to ashes sticks out at me. Maybe Undertaker committed suicide by setting himself on FIRE? I’ll have to see if their is any other basis for this….

BTW, there are technically ten frames here. Is there a tenth reaper we haven’t met yet?

I thought I had reblogged this once with updates, but I’m not sure right now. I’d like to add some extra info and a slight correction.

First off, there’s more evidence to support Grelle drowning. Yes, there is a famous painting of Ophelia in the Phantomhive manor, but that’s not it. The side chapter ā€œThat Butler, Requestedā€ depicts Grelle as the little mermaid – not the Disney version with the happy ending. Andersen’s original version which has the little mermaid choose death rather than killing the prince who rejected her. She’s on a ship when she decides to throw herself overboard. When she hits the water, she turns to seafoam. These spirits called the ā€œDaughters of the Airā€ tell her she can join them in order to earn a soul and eventually ascend to Heaven. The process is expected to take around 300 years. Doesn’t this sound a bit like reapers working for personal salvation? Along these same lines, the Campania arc has Grelle getting tossed from the ship and into the sea. We see Grelle doing the Dead Man’s Float. William has to fish Grelle out of the water with his telescopic pruner death scythe.

I still say pills for Eric make sense to me, but now I’m thinking some other poison might work for Alan. It seems appropriate that they should choose similar methods.

The tenth reaper is Anderson, the glasses-maker the other reapers call Pops. I have no real evidence to support it, but as he’s the only reaper shown sporting facial hair, I’m inclined to think he might have slit his throat with an old-school shaving razor. Slightly random note: Anderson seems to be a nod to Hans Christian Andersen, just like William T. Spears is a nod to William Shakespeare.

A slight correction to my previous comment about Undertaker: there were definitely buildings tall enough to jump to one’s death from around 1200. However, I can think of two more reasons why fire makes sense. They are both bit funny. One, he has no eyebrows. This could be to indicate they had once been singed/burnt right off; either they never grew back… or he now shaves them off. Two, cremation wasn’t popular in the Victorian era, and yet we keep seeing Undertaker with an urn. He uses it like a biscuit tin (cookie jar). What at first seems like a mere eccentricity might also be a reference to his own suicide method.

That’s all I can think to add for now….